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Post: #166   PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RK: I agree with your post. There are bakasuras supporting Pseculiars and Narakasuras supporting NaMo!
You talk of girls having beer/ alcohol (which is NOT prohibited to those > 21)
1 What about girls attending a birthday celebration with limca/ pepsi IN THE AFTERNOON?
Happened in Mangalore 2 years back. Some narakasura called Ganesh brought a gang who hammered the boys and half stripped the girls besides touching their chest/ lower back/ and other delicate areas. Police tried to book the party for illegal booze consumption/ sex etc but had to retract with red faces. Nothing happened to narakasura?!?!
2 The age old British act enabling the police with frightening powers of search and arrest, passed in 1875 and still intact because it serves our masters gives the cops mind numbing powers.
Some North Indian students quietly having booze in hired apartment in B'lore South were raided every week by cops saying you are shouting, drinking illegally, disturbing neighbors etc (neighbors in fact came out and told the cops they were NOT being disturbed). When one student asked openly which law they were breaking he was hammered and jailed for a day. After adverse publicity this stopped but cops were not punished
3 I myself witnessed the shameless abuse of power by cops when I was waiting, at 2PM, 6 years back to collect my then 2nd yr PU student daughter from her college (KLE, Rajajinagar, B'lore)
Students quietly talking outside the college were pushed, hammered, threatened (will tell your parents), go inside and study by cops from nearby cop-thana who came in an open jeep like Patton entering Germany! One who protested was immediately slapped and dragged to the jeep. When I quietly asked the shop keeper standing next to me : regular? 'regular, after drinks previous night!'
We need to start a signature campaign to modernize the age old, suited to British then & Indian netas now, 1875 version Indian Penal Code (When Companies Act can be updated every 5 years, why not this one?)
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Post: #167   PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkholla wrote:
RK: I agree with your post. There are bakasuras supporting Pseculiars and Narakasuras supporting NaMo!
You talk of girls having beer/ alcohol (which is NOT prohibited to those > 21)
1 What about girls attending a birthday celebration with limca/ pepsi IN THE AFTERNOON?
Happened in Mangalore 2 years back. Some narakasura called Ganesh brought a gang who hammered the boys and half stripped the girls besides touching their chest/ lower back/ and other delicate areas. Police tried to book the party for illegal booze consumption/ sex etc but had to retract with red faces. Nothing happened to narakasura?!?!
2 The age old British act enabling the police with frightening powers of search and arrest, passed in 1875 and still intact because it serves our masters gives the cops mind numbing powers.
Some North Indian students quietly having booze in hired apartment in B'lore South were raided every week by cops saying you are shouting, drinking illegally, disturbing neighbors etc (neighbors in fact came out and told the cops they were NOT being disturbed). When one student asked openly which law they were breaking he was hammered and jailed for a day. After adverse publicity this stopped but cops were not punished
3 I myself witnessed the shameless abuse of power by cops when I was waiting, at 2PM, 6 years back to collect my then 2nd yr PU student daughter from her college (KLE, Rajajinagar, B'lore)
Students quietly talking outside the college were pushed, hammered, threatened (will tell your parents), go inside and study by cops from nearby cop-thana who came in an open jeep like Patton entering Germany! One who protested was immediately slapped and dragged to the jeep. When I quietly asked the shop keeper standing next to me : regular? 'regular, after drinks previous night!'
We need to start a signature campaign to modernize the age old, suited to British then & Indian netas now, 1875 version Indian Penal Code (When Companies Act can be updated every 5 years, why not this one?)


Thanks! Prakash, Yes ,these colonial era legislations, laws and practices which are oppressive should be abolished and new democratic laws should be introduced.
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Post: #168   PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:08 am    Post subject: hilter strategy ALERT Reply with quote

STEP 1 :-FEED and inflame the anger of the people by blaming others for the ills

step 2:-show yourself to be messiah to cure all ills of the country

step 3:-address rally after rally all over to spread the poisonous false propaganda of some hidden enemy within abuse them in any and every way possible.

step 4:-remove and eliminate any threat of reason or dissidence within the political party

step 5:-keep all important ministries to oneself and manipulate for self profit.

step 6:-destroy all Democratic form of politics by sidelining and humiliating the elders of the party.

step 7:-finally when elected turn on own people in this case Jews and systematically eliminate them,strangulate freedom and make it either you are with us(patriot) or against us(enemy) if you dont agree to HIS ways.

sounds familiar now google nat geo HD for the balance and you will learn the truth about this madman and his self declared idol in India mr Narendra modi.PS :-till date modi has not given a valid press conference
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Post: #169   PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:54 am    Post subject: NEW LOW Reply with quote

Watch the below site to beleive it..
thecitizen . in/city/bjp-asks-pakistanis-to-donate-for-modi/

BJP Supporters should take some water in their hand and dive into it after seeing the above news Shocked
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Post: #170   PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: hilter strategy ALERT Reply with quote

ninjadude wrote:
STEP 1 :-FEED and inflame the anger of the people by blaming others for the ills

step 2:-show yourself to be messiah to cure all ills of the country

step 3:-address rally after rally all over to spread the poisonous false propaganda of some hidden enemy within abuse them in any and every way possible.

step 4:-remove and eliminate any threat of reason or dissidence within the political party

step 5:-keep all important ministries to oneself and manipulate for self profit.

step 6:-destroy all Democratic form of politics by sidelining and humiliating the elders of the party.

step 7:-finally when elected turn on own people in this case Jews and systematically eliminate them,strangulate freedom and make it either you are with us(patriot) or against us(enemy) if you dont agree to HIS ways.

sounds familiar now google nat geo HD for the balance and you will learn the truth about this madman and his self declared idol in India mr Narendra modi.PS :-till date modi has not given a valid press conference


No... No... a good party should be like this.....

1. Use Mahathma Name for political gains and cheat people
2. When terrorists attack india.. just give warning statement and forget their attack... Terrorist will attack continuously and kill innocents.
3.Give citizenship ids and adhaar ids to illegal bangladesi aliens to increase the voteshare and also tacticaly supporting demographic warfares..
4.allow scams worth trillians of Rupees
5.protect the scamsters from CBI
6. Use CBI to help quatorrachi
7.Divide the people on religion and provide benefits only to votebankgroup
8. protect the people who participated in 1984 riots
9. "remove and eliminate any threat of reason or dissidence within the political party" for one family
10. insult patriotism and nationalism by making a foreigner as the leader of the party
11.manipulate the media....
12.Will form alliance with muslims party , christians party , then call itself as sickular party and call other parties which alliances with other religions(hindu, sikh) as religious fanatics party... and the list can go on this way...
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Post: #171   PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well said Raynor
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Post: #172   PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raynor, way to go!

You forgot
1 Acquired Indian DyNASTY Syndrome (25 year olds made ministers because their fathers were loyal chamchas of N-G dyNASTY)
2 AIDS inheritor (SK) goes to Ajmer to bow before and touch feet of vijiting Paki PM on private vijit FEW DAYS AFTER 2 JAWANS BEHEADED BY PAKI SOLDIERS! No news from SK about what action he is taking about beheading OR other atrocities
3 This AIDS inheritor has not yet been cleared of charges of cheating handicapped thru his NGO
More to come if needed, Prakash Holla
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Post: #173   PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:34 am    Post subject: Re: NEW LOW Reply with quote

ninjadude wrote:
Watch the below site to beleive it..
thecitizen . in/city/bjp-asks-pakistanis-to-donate-for-modi/

BJP Supporters should take some water in their hand and dive into it after seeing the above news Shocked


The link is not opening, but I have seen this before. Anyone who has not go here -> http://www.veooz.com/photos/LH25uD_.html

The article writer has pointed it to be "BJP asks Pakistanis to donate for Modi".

1) The AD displayed says please donate for the good future of India. It is not appealing to Pakistanis.

2) The AD was displayed under "Google ADs" on The Dawn's website.

3) 3rd party ADs on websites work on Geotargeting - Maximising target reach for the advertiser. It is the method of determining the geolocation of a website visitor and delivering different content (ads) to that visitor based on his or her location, such as country, region/state, city, metro code/zip code, organization, IP address, ISP or other criteria

4) If I open The Dawn website sitting in US, Australia - I will see the online paid ADs related to those countries even though I browsed a Pakistani website.

This is Arvind Kejriwal's style actually, try to gain weightage by creating doubts in others minds adopted by some supporters also and later not apologizing for spreading misinformation. It's a waste of time to deal with such comments but it's misguiding to others so it had to be addressed.

Like leader like followers. You inadvertently listed step 1 to 3 which actually potray personality and style of AK as he has done nothing so far except that. Wink
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Post: #174   PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RK, I respect your thought and agree in many aspects.

Where do you see a change being led from in regards to this? Who is pursuing it? Whom do you look upto in AAP to provide this? Their agendas are fickle like AK. From anti-corruption to now issues on communalism. They have Kumar Vishwas who wrote something racist against nurses of Kerala. What do you think must be his mindset like or the people around him to ignore it? It's not an agenda as far as I see to them.

I don't think any "major" differences like even racism, rights for women, etc. go away until decades of pursuance like how Nelson Mandela did while the educated mass increases (who sees the distress) and the generation which supported the differences becomes less to the newer ones.

The change just doesn't happen until 2-3 generations pass. And for us it would take longer.

How many yester-dad agree with the idea of a Valentines Day to let his daughter be taken for a romantic dinner with a stranger in India.
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Post: #175   PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are in a mess. We will continue to be in mess for foreseeable future. NaMo or any other leader can not fix these things in one lifetime.

Non congress parties need to be given their share of time to rule the nation. Whether they too loot us or fix things, only time will tell.

There ought to be some good politicians irrespective of party they belong too. Otherwise, we would be in anarchy by now. May be 20-80 rule applies in politics too.

Lastly, I believe, this is how countries evolve. We too shall...
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Post: #176   PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:07 pm    Post subject: MODI SPEAK DISCIPLES Reply with quote

@RAYNOR

No... No... a good party should be like this.....

1. Use Mahathma Name for political gains and cheat people
2. When terrorists attack india.. just give warning statement and forget their attack... Terrorist will attack continuously and kill innocents.
3.Give citizenship ids and adhaar ids to illegal bangladesi aliens to increase the voteshare and also tacticaly supporting demographic warfares..
4.allow scams worth trillians of Rupees
5.protect the scamsters from CBI
6. Use CBI to help quatorrachi
7.Divide the people on religion and provide benefits only to votebankgroup
8. protect the people who participated in 1984 riots
9. "remove and eliminate any threat of reason or dissidence within the political party" for one family
10. insult patriotism and nationalism by making a foreigner as the leader of the party
11.manipulate the media....
12.Will form alliance with muslims party , christians party , then call itself as sickular party and call other parties which alliances with other religions(hindu, sikh) as religious fanatics party... and the list can go on this way...

POINT 1:isnt RSS responsible for murder of gandhi
2:who and which weak bjp released and escorted terrorist at kandahar.
3 looks like bjpee supporters conveniently forget coffingate and mining scams
4,5,6,7,8,9 ditto for bjp.congress has apologized time and time again for 1984 riots
10.true Indian patriots go around hitting Indian girls and women in the name of enforcing sanatan dharma
11.same with bjp
12.dont bjp have two union muslim ministers shahnawaz etc and modi ads now include muslims etc.

your response and list reflects the desperation,insecure narrow mindset of the so called educated communalist.


ps:there is still no response to balance points that have been made and still why modi refuses a press conference.
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Post: #177   PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: MODI SPEAK DISCIPLES Reply with quote

ninjadude wrote:
@RAYNOR

No... No... a good party should be like this.....

1. Use Mahathma Name for political gains and cheat people
2. When terrorists attack india.. just give warning statement and forget their attack... Terrorist will attack continuously and kill innocents.
3.Give citizenship ids and adhaar ids to illegal bangladesi aliens to increase the voteshare and also tacticaly supporting demographic warfares..
4.allow scams worth trillians of Rupees
5.protect the scamsters from CBI
6. Use CBI to help quatorrachi
7.Divide the people on religion and provide benefits only to votebankgroup
8. protect the people who participated in 1984 riots
9. "remove and eliminate any threat of reason or dissidence within the political party" for one family
10. insult patriotism and nationalism by making a foreigner as the leader of the party
11.manipulate the media....
12.Will form alliance with muslims party , christians party , then call itself as sickular party and call other parties which alliances with other religions(hindu, sikh) as religious fanatics party... and the list can go on this way...

POINT 1:isnt RSS responsible for murder of gandhi
2:who and which weak bjp released and escorted terrorist at kandahar.
3 looks like bjpee supporters conveniently forget coffingate and mining scams
4,5,6,7,8,9 ditto for bjp.congress has apologized time and time again for 1984 riots
10.true Indian patriots go around hitting Indian girls and women in the name of enforcing sanatan dharma
11.same with bjp
12.dont bjp have two union muslim ministers shahnawaz etc and modi ads now include muslims etc.

your response and list reflects the desperation,insecure narrow mindset of the so called educated communalist.


ps:there is still no response to balance points that have been made and still why modi refuses a press conference.


for ur points...

isnt RSS.... if i say answer for this here, it may be deleted....

who and which weak bjp.... 200 people saved and 4 terrorists relieved. right decision based on utilitarian theory.

looks like bjpee... modi is honest thats why still CBI cannot forge a case against him.

congress has apologized.... not even a single person punished for 1984 sikh riots where in gujrat riots many people were arrested and are in jail.

true Indian patriots... cannot make responsible for modi. gujrat is safer for women compared to many states particularly compared to delhi. still much better than many countries.. Link

same with.... still modi, sivraj, raman, goa CM, are clean... but congress puts case against jegan mohan reddy because his father did lots of corruption. Note: jagans father is the man who brought back congress in ap from telugu desam..

climax: you say "modi ads now include muslims " but u call modi and his supporters as communal.
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Post: #178   PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raynor: Another good batting display! Kohli style
Apka: Time to close this thread, with voting already started.
You need not convince believers like R.
And you cannot convince some others no matter how many facts and logical points u bring out !!!
Jai Hind, Prakash Holla
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Post: #179   PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:11 am    Post subject: time for change in mindset Reply with quote

india belongs to everyone not according to some majority religion and it will always be,communal terror forces will always lose and their supporters will always stay in misery,better corruption which unites people in misery than crony communalism that divides the heart and mind

HINDUISM
JAINISM
BUDDHISM
MUSLIM
CHRISTIANITY

aur yeh sab i HAVE not PK BOLLAH
VANDE MATARAM
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Post: #180   PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkholla wrote:
Raynor: Another good batting display! Kohli style
Apka: Time to close this thread, with voting already started.
You need not convince believers like R.
And you cannot convince some others no matter how many facts and logical points u bring out !!!
Jai Hind, Prakash Holla


I'll wait till the results. If i just wanted to see people be convinced in writing to me then i would have lost morale to continue seeing some of the earlier responses. My purpose was broader than that.

Icharts is one of the places for my active postings on this subject. I understand that there would be number of silent registered and unregistered ppl reading. There are 10cr new voters this time. So i dont think i have wasted time or energy.

Hopefully, in totality it has helped few, i know in real life ive had 7 ppl change their views and hopefully their chng in view, discussion affects others. Like vishy had passed on wht i wrote, is part of what i wanted, to get mass readings in retro effect. So its all worth it and was much needed.

As for ninjadude, he doesnt debate nor has he posed intelligent questions again and i could debunk him again in 2 mins without a blink. But the content he is swaying to is not suitable for this forum and i dont want to lose the decorum of the thread maintained.
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